The Argument From Douche-Baggery [Ken Ham Is An Idiot]
The Lie
For anyone who’s read my previous post concerning Ken Ham, you’ll have gotten a pretty good idea of how ignorant he is. Well, he’s either ignorant, or he’s a liar. I’ll let you decide.
In any case, in keeping with the scientific method – providing evidence to support one’s claims, I have more nail-in-the-coffin evidence that Ken Ham is either (a) ignorant, or (b) lying concerning evolution.
On his Answers In Genesis website, he has a “Media” section with audio, video and pictures of creationist propaganda in easy-to-access, easy-to-use, ignorant form. Of course, it’s all nonsense, lies and misrepresentations of actual science and reality. But, one of these especially caught my attention.
The title of this segment is called “Neptune’s wonders… “proof” of creation?” Here is the segment in question, for your listening pleasure.
The first quote from this work of genius is priceless…
You know, even though the incredible planet of Neptune can’t be explained by evolution, at the same time it really is strong evidence for a young universe. You know why? Well, you see, Neptune is a planet that can’t be explained by long ages of time.
Wow, Ken Ham! Your complete lack of understanding of what evolution is… it’s awe inspiring. I’ve never known someone to so brazenly take their own ignorance of a topic and recklessly use it against people who spend their entire lives studying that particular field. Is tithe money running low?
According to Ham, Neptune “can’t be explained by evolution.”
The Truth
This just kills me. Okay, let’s take a look at what Ham’s statement actually means.
How about, to elucidate on just how ignorant this quote is, we substitute the word evolution for evolution’s definition. Evolution can be defined as change in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next.
Now, let’s put this quote into context.
You know, even though the incredible planet of Neptune can’t be explained by changes in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next, at the same time it really is strong evidence for a young universe. You know why? Well, you see, Neptune is a planet that can’t be explained by long ages of time.
Ken Ham, you are an idiot. Neptune can’t be explained by changes in alleles within a gene pool?
I suppose next you’re going to say that calculus doesn’t explain elephants, and that this is “proof of creation.”
Now let’s look at some facts, which Ham has completely left out of the picture, and for good reason. Facts don’t support creation. Random nonsense, on the other hand, does.
- First of all, as far as we know, Neptune does not have volcanoes.
- Secondly, Neptune does not actually generate heat. It’s surface temperature is -218° Celsius. Pretty cold, if you ask me. (Neptune’s core is around 7,000° Celsius, which is similar to most planets in our solar system.)
- Thirdly, it is actually Neptune’s moon, Triton that has the volcanoes on it. And volcanoes on Triton are perfectly explainable by the gravitational effects of Neptune on Triton’s core. And these are not ordinary volcanoes. They aren’t spewing lava, or molten rock. It’s actually liquid nitrogen, dust and methane compounds.
Hey, Ken Ham. Maybe you should try doing some research on your topics before going off on some kind of nonsense tangent. I get tired of having to interrupt your nonsense with real, verifiable facts.
Now, Neptune may not be explainable by changes in alleles within a gene pool, but it sure can be explained by astronomy, geology and physics.
Ken, how about you try explaining things with regard to the field that they are actually involved with?
The Logical Fallacy
Technically speaking, Ken Ham’s argument, in this case, would be considered a straw man argument. You take a position A (evolution), construct a weaker position B (the “straw man”), and attack that position, instead of position A.
But Ham commits this offense so often, that I have now renamed this fallacy – naming it after Ham. It is now, officially, referred to as the argument from douche-baggery.
Ken Ham is a douche bag.
Read a book.
Check out the book Rapture Ready! by Daniel Radosh for another interesting take on Ken Ham. The guy is just creepy beyond measure. And, d’oh, the ignorance or dishonesty these people exhibit is stunning.
Great post GodKillzYou
Nice! You know, guys like Ken Ham personify the ID movement. Is it really so surprising that people of his ilk are the best ID can offer up? Unfortunately, they’re good enough for a great many uneducated Americans. Oh well, one does what one can. Keep up the good work!
Well done! And thank you, by the way, for making me look like an idiot in public. I was reading this post while sitting by myself at a bar waiting for my carry-out order and I couldn’t stop laughing! I almost spit beer on the bar when I got to the calculus/elephant line. Classic!
Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation
Anyway … nice blog to visit.
cheers, Fallout!!!
Ken Ham is a real idiot. He lies to the people all the time, he must be sick on his head to come up with such crazy ideas. His “museum” is waste of money. I wonder if he got somewhere written on his head 666. I think he might have, he is the anitchrist, who under the cover of religion will come and will fool the people to follow his false teachings. I’m a Christian. Jesus gave us the New Testament because He knew that the Old Testament was full of hate, and violence, and overall nonsense written by the ancient people. I wish that Ken Ham can read what I am writing here, therefore, Mr. Ham I encourage you to read and understand the New Testament. God did not tell us to be stupid as you want others to be. God want us to evolve to discover things so we can help one another. That’s why we have modern medicine and all the science, and technology that we use everyday. Even you Mr. Ham needed to use modern technology, which is modern science to build your crack house. If you hate so much science why do you use modern thechnology, why don’t you go and live in the cave. Why do you go around our country and teach nonsense, why do you hurt the innocent children with your idiot teaching. Mr. Ham do you have any fear of God at all? One more thing to Mr. Ham and to others like him, I will cite one of the Gospels. This Gospel is about talents. Talent was a currency at the time of Jesus, however, in this Gospel the meaning of talents has a bit different sounding. Jesus said “One day a landlord told his workers to gather together before him. He gave one worker five talents, and told him to make good use of them, and multiply them for him, then he gave another four talents and told him to do the same, and the last one that came got only one talent. The firstone went and brought ten talents in return, the second did the same and got eight talents back for his master, but the one that got only one instead of multiply the talent went to his house and hid the talent deep in the ground. The master called on his workers and asked them what they brought for him. The first said – master, you gave me five talents, I went to the banker and got you ten talents. The master was happy with his worker and said, come to my house, you have done well, you were little among others and I’ll exalt you above others. The second came and brought back eight talents and the master said the same thing to him what he said to the firstone. The thirdone came and brought back one talent, and said to the master, I knew that you are powerful and mighty, that you want to reap where you haven’t sow, therefore, I was scared and I went to my home and hid the talent deep in the ground. Here is your talent that you gave me. The lord got very angry with this worker, and said, you vile servant, you knew that I wanted to reap where I haven’t sow, therefore, I will take from you what I gave you and give to the one that has ten talents, and you I will throw away from my house. There will be darkness and cold. Therefore, I’m telling you if you do not make good use of the talent God gives you, you’ll be striped of everything even of this what you do not have.” Therefore, Mr. Ham do you understand the meaning of this Gospel? I think that you do not. I will tell you then. Everyone in his or her life has a mission to do, we get talents from God, and some become doctors and help others in the hospitals, some are dentists, some are pilots, teachers, Professors etc.and some are scientists who discover things to make our life better. That’s right evolution was discovered and not invented. You on the other hand have hidden your talent deep in the ground to preach nonsense to the people, and when you’ll die do not think that you’ll enter God’s Kingdom, because you have mislead too many people through out your life. I think Mr. Ham that you have a serious mental problem and you need not only a doctor but a very good psychiatrist and even an exorcist to get rid off the devil out of you. You are possessed by the dark side. Give up the devil Mr. Ham and free your mind. Science comes from God, and in science especially evolution we find the beauty of Gods creation. And you on the other hand make God a magician who snaps with his fingers and brings everything to life. Come down from the clouds on earth to reality Mr. Ham and give up the devil in you, you freaken antichrist. To me you are an antichrist and I can bet a million $ that you have on you the number 666, and at night you probably grow horns on your forehead. Give up the devil I’m telling you or just go freaken back to Australia, you have polluted our country enought with your stupidity.
Haha! I’m never calling it the straw man fallacy again.
Dude u are so right though, Ken Ham is a douche bag. I am a Christian and still think he is a lying moron. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU KEN!?!?
Ken Ham is a crackpot.
Ham and eggs for breakfast, anyone?
Jon.
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Yes, Ken Ham is an idiot. He will lose his useless fight. He is fighting God, and what he does he thinks is for the right cause. I’m also a Christian, and I wish to see all the idiot creationists go away and stop making Christianity a stupid religion. Another idiot is “Dr.” Marcus Ross. He’s got his degree in paleontology and now teaches at Liberty University. He said that he will prove that the Earth is 4000 years old. This idiot is missing a historic point that the oldest cicilization is 28 000 years old. This would mean that this oldest civilization existed before the Earth was created by the God of the Bible. Creationists make no sense at all. I bet you that if God and Jesus told Ken Ham and others like him, that evolution happened that science discovered it and other things, then Ken Ham would argue against God to correct Him. Creationists are from devil, and not from God. It is very sad that those people are still around these days. They go backwards instead of going forward together with developing world. There are many idiots one of the them is Kirk Cameron, and his servant Ray Comfort. It is really a wast of time to even comment on them, because they got no brain at all. There are of course more morons alike. Even if they will keep saying that they do not accept evolution, then evolution will continue to happen whether they like it or not. Evolution is a biological process, the same as the Earth goes around the Sun as an example. One may say I do not accept or believe that the Earth rotates in space around the Sun, but we all know that it does. We do not have to believe in that or accept it, because it is a fact, the Earth does rotate around the Sun, and it will continue to rotate whether one will not believe or will not accept it. However, as science will continue to progress those idiots will go extinct together with their nonsense. I wish that Ken Ham can actually read this critique of him, and come to realize that he is a moron. Amen to that