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Proof Dinosaurs Lived With Man? [Lying For Jesus]

Introduction

So I came across this post last night, displayed prominently on the WordPress homepage. Proof Dinosaurs Lived With Man. Great title. How could anyone resist checking it out?

Here’s the video posited in this post as “proof” that dinosaurs lived with man…

I’m not sure about you, but I could barely stomach the first 5 minutes of this video… John Pendleton is an idiot. And by the way, what is a Chemist doing making Geological or Archeological claims? Is this some sort of argument from authority? If so, that’s a big logical no-no.

I’d left a comment on this guy’s blog, but I guess it wasn’t worth approving. I suppose it’s because I offered actual scientific evidence against his claims… this supposed “proof.”

The Scientific Refutation

Now, far be it for me to just make claims like this without evidence. Here are a few critiques of Mr. Pendleton’s works.

Critique Number 1

Critique Number 2

The interesting thing about these critiques is that there are actual references given at the end of each video, providing sources for the information posited.

This is the antithesis of Mr. Pendleton’s work. He merely makes random, religious claims, not based on his experience or work as a Chemist, but from references to the Bible. How scientific of him. Using the Bible as scientific proof – when the Bible has yet to be scientifically verified to contain any historical truth.

Not once does he offer a reference where you could look up the information he’s expecting us to believe. We are expected to just take his word for it. Not very scientific. Is he even an actual scientist? Or does he just own a white coat?

Even the pictures Pendleton offered in his video are not evidence. He is a Chemist. He is not qualified to analyze Archaeological data. It would not be prudent of one to simply trust his opinion over someone who is specially trained in the required field. Just because he has a degree in Chemistry does not mean that he has a degree in everything. You can’t just take his word because he’s a scientist with a white coat on.

Conclusion

The religious community is very loose with their definition of “proof,” and what they consider to be proof of a claim. In particular, Christians are more than willing to lie for Jesus. Why? I couldn’t begin to guess, since it violates one of their precious commandments. And for a scientific reference, see Exodus 20:16 (KJV):

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Now, there might be a fuzzy line here. Is Mr. Pendleton intentionally misleading people with his lies, along with the likes of Ken Ham, or that jail-bird Kent Hovind (an excellent example of a Jesus Liar)? Or, is he really ignorant as to the lack of veracity of his claims? Well, to use an expression, that’s between him and God.

Whether he’s intentionally lying, or just ignorant of the facts, Mr. Pendleton is, to say the least, a disgrace to the scientific community. I would no more trust the words of Mr. Pendleton than I would, say, of that mythical Devil those guys always speak of.

The most important thing to take away from this is the fact that you can’t just take someone’s word for it. If they are making claims, especially scientific in nature, you cannot just take their words at face value. Ask questions. Look for evidence to back up their claims. At least ask for references.

To take one guy’s opinion over the consensus of the entire scientific community is ignorant and intellectually dishonest. It boils down to a standard of proof, and whether or not proof even matters to you.

Read a book. It’s good for you.

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  1. simon
    Saturday January 10, 2009 at 7:47 AM

    your clearly anti christian first and foremost
    from what i read of your comments you accuse others of what you are guilty of.

  2. Saturday January 10, 2009 at 12:20 PM

    Simon,

    I’m not exactly sure of what you mean by “you accuse others of what you are guilty of?”

    I’m stating simply that evidence is important if one is going to make claims; that one mustn’t lie to get a point across. When my claims don’t line up with the evidence, then maybe I’d give credence to your proposition.

    You, on the other hand, start with your conclusion and look for evidence to support it. If siding with the evidence is “anti-christian,” then so be it. I’m anti-Christian.

  3. Rick
    Saturday January 31, 2009 at 1:00 AM

    You are not refutiating anything. What do you think the tracks are. They are obviously human looking.

  4. Saturday January 31, 2009 at 10:38 AM

    Human looking? Are you a paleontologist? An archaeologist? Are you specially trained to know what “human-looking” means in terms of geologic data? Something can “look” like anything to the untrained eye.

    Pendleton certainly isn’t trained in this field. And we shouldn’t be taking his word for it.

  5. NoKooliadForMe
    Tuesday February 16, 2010 at 10:09 AM

    These fundie literalist creationists are scary…and gaining power, thanks to the likes of Sarah Palin. EEEEK!

  6. Patrick Sullivan
    Wednesday August 10, 2011 at 4:29 AM

    Dr. Hovind is in jail for evading taxes. That should not and does not disprove his work in any way. Taxes are anti-American. Why don’t you rant about that shit? Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams, etc were all considered terrorists by the British gov’t because they did not want to take “bread from their tables” to pay some tyrant 3,000 miles away. Taxes are wrong… Don’t make false claims and assumptions based on nothing and take your own advice. Read a book. It’s called the Bible. Read it from cover to cover at least twice(NASB if you’re not fluent in old English) and then perhaps read the US Constitution and study the real history of this nation instead of just assuming what you were indoctrinated to believe in school is the truth….. Assfuck.

  7. Patrick Sullivan
    Wednesday August 10, 2011 at 4:35 AM

    By the way, evolution is still a theory. I has still not been proven “beyond a reasonable doubt”. I have many reasons to disbelieve evolution. Here’s a good one… We have millions upon millions of fossils, yet we only have a handful of “transitional forms”. (All of which have been debunked by the way… Even your beloved “Lucy”.) The guy that found Lucy said he found the knee and leg bones one and a half miles away from the original site and that they were from a different animal. Nat’l Geographic just printed the story anyway stating that a transitional being had been found…. lmfao Evolution is a religion. Time is their “God”. Go fuck yourselves idiots…

    • Thursday August 11, 2011 at 5:03 PM

      Since when is science proven in the court of public opinion? Beyond a reasonable doubt? Where did you get that from? Science has nothing to do with proving things “beyond a reasonable doubt.” You’re thinking of a courtroom. Science deals strictly with evidence and has nothing to do with whether or not someone doubts it.

      And, yes, evolution is a theory, just like gravity, thermodynamics and Germ theory (you know, diseases). You obviously don’t understand what the word “theory” means in a scientific sense. It’s not a guess or a hunch. But, it’s been explained over and over again to Creationists. They just choose not to hear it because it’s so much easier to just assume theory means guess. Fine, just remain ignorant in order to reinforce your own beliefs… it won’t make them true.

    • deadlymonkey
      Friday March 2, 2012 at 5:55 AM

      Great insight from an intelligent man. Your choice of words prove how educated you are; good job! Did you learn to say “Go fuck yourselves idiots” from reading the Bible twice? Also your knowledge of paleoanthropology is mesmerizing, and your impeccable brain power has debunked evolution! Poor scientists with their PhD’s; they clearly don’t know what they are doing. You on the other hand have just proven to be a rational being with great things to say. I bet you are pleasant to talk in person, with a great deal of unbiased information and no opinions. Oh, I will certainly follow your advise!

  8. Carolyn Henderson
    Saturday March 24, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    why is everyone argueing? Just let everyone read both sides themselves and decide for themselves without someone brainwashing them into one side or the other.

    • Friday January 23, 2015 at 6:53 AM

      Maybe because there’s no discussion among scientists. Evolution’s a fact, no mater weather you believe in god or you’re an atheist.

  9. patflynnjr
    Saturday April 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    Good on ya Carolyn!

  10. patflynnjr
    Saturday April 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    Good on ya Carolyn.

  11. DK
    Monday March 25, 2013 at 4:39 AM

    Dear Carolyn, the theists do the brainwashing and the scientists do the educating. We want the brainwashing to stop all together. Just read Patrick’s 2 misinformed cents above.
    Patrick, you’re an idiot. The US Constitution lays the foundation for tax collection by the federal government. Add a few more books to the one you’ve already read, which was not in fact written in Old English. That was Beowulf.

  12. NL
    Sunday March 8, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    He’s not even a chemist. He’s a car mechanic (“applied science”) with a bachelors degree. Here’s his resume, and you will find it contains no education beyond a BS in chemistry from UW:http://www.angelfire.com/mt/GICC/jppersonalministryinfo.html

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